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Re Virginia Tech: Practical steps to protect students

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Those who advocate the complete disarming of American society so that crazy foreign students can’t shoot up campuses and will, somehow, be forced to instead utilize baseball bats are sadly misled. Utopian ideals, and unworkable solutions, will not solve or prevent such incidents at schools, churches and malls. Frankly, it is incredible that in a post 9-11 world that the citizenry of this nation are forced to be helpless and vulnerable by both the law and institutional ‘policies’ by people who cannot provide even the most elementary security to those it has disarmed. Virginia Tech has some 30,000 plus students and apparently no viable security measures at all. Yet one armed, law abiding citizen could have relatively easily halted this tragedy as it began.

The only school shootings that have ever been stopped were by armed citizens/teachers who had relatively quick access to a firearm (in several instances they had one stashed in a vehicle in the parking lot) and were able to take the necessary measures to save lives.

Yet this is what the all knowing nanny state has deemed to be unacceptable. One has to wonder why. Why would you disarm law abiding citizens in an attempt to stop criminals who neither respect the law nor abide by it? Logic and common should dictate our solutions and guide our hands, not misguided policies dictated solely by ideological nuances instead of the simple facts.

I (along with several thousand others) am a concealed handgun permit holder in the state of Colorado. I can (and often do) carry a firearm in McDonalds, Wal-Mart, the mall and most everywhere else the average citizen goes. A small bubble of public safety if you will, not just for me and my family, but for those fellow citizens that cross my path throughout the day.  Yet I, or any other law abiding citizen, cannot carry on school campuses (though, oddly enough,  it can be in the trunk if I am picking up my children from school). 

I had initially applied for my concealed handgun permit a month or so before 9-11. The fee was $100 payable to the county and a $35 CBI background fee.  As soon as 9-11 occurred the local sheriff waved the $100 county fee and proceeded to hand out concealed carry permits as expeditiously as possible. Mine is permit number 1768 and within just a couple months the sheriff issued about 5,000 more. In the five years since then, not a single one of permit holders has been involved in any firearm related infraction or crime. Those who argue against concealed carry permit laws or forbid them in certain areas are, at best, incredibly ignorant, and at worst purposelessly exposing their fellow countrymen to violent crime, assaults and even death for the sake of ideology and feel good policies. Shame on them and those who are taking this opportunity to pimp their gun control politics on the rest of us.

 College campuses are the model of what the Left seek to turn the rest of the nation into. Bastions of political correctness, ideological conformity, white guilt, speech codes, thought police and public mockery of morals, values and Christianity. And all apparently at the mercy of the crazed, evil and dangerous among us.

One last thing, ever wonder why there seems to be so many school shootings, and yet so few attacks on police stations? The answer is very clear. Crazed gunmen and terrorists prey on the defenseless, not on the armed and protected.

There were several heroes yesterday that should be remembered for their bravery and heroism. Slain Israeli Professor Saved Others in Va. Tech Massacre

A couple other views:

State quashed bill allowing handguns on campuses

“The one thing that this tragic event does illustrate is that there is not a single gun law, rule or regulation that will stop someone with this kind of evil intent from going about their business and taking life at will, if they are committed to doing that,” Gilbert (bill sponsor) said….In the spring of 2005, a Virginia Tech student who had a concealed handgun permit was disciplined for bringing a handgun to class, the Roanoke paper reported. Second Amendment groups questioned the university’s authority, but the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police argued against guns on campus. 

From Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership: Proven solutions to ending school shootings (hint, follow the Israeli model)

After this a controversial debate erupted in Israel in regards to guns, self defense etc. We heard of course the same dumb arguments by some good people, you always hear on these occasions like ” We do not live in the Wild West here!” Or: “Guns don’t solve problems!” or similar silly things….Teachers and kindergarten nurses now started to carry guns, schools were protected by parents (and often grandpas) guarding them in voluntary shifts. No school group went on a hike or trip without armed guards…. When the message got around to the PLO groups and a couple infiltration attempts failed, the attacks against schools ceased. Too much of a risk here: Terrorists and other evildoers don’t like risks

Hot Air is  an excellent resource for breaking news on this tragedy. The Smoking Gun has the play written by the killer, which was disturbing enough to get him recommended for counseling.

From Powerlineblog.com:

The Virginia Tech murderer has been identified as Cho Seung-Hui. The AOL Newsbloggers site has a note from a former classmate of the alleged murderer:

When I first heard about the multiple shootings at Virginia Tech yesterday, my first thought was about my friends, and my second thought was “I bet it was Seung Cho.” ***Before Cho got to class that day, we students were talking to each other with serious worry about whether he could be a school shooter. I was even thinking of scenarios of what I would do in case he did come in with a gun…

It is far to early to tell, but there is some speculation that this may have been another case of ‘Sudden Jihadist Syndrome’, though the evidence is sparse, but interesting. He also had either Ismail AK or Ismail AX written on his arm. Very strange. Here is the story of Ismail and the Ax.  Improbable, but an angle that must be considered along with all others. Once again, like the Salt Lake Shooter and the DC snipers, this shooter had  good training/experience/familiarity  with a firearm. Where did he learn to shoot and who taught him? But apparently none of the usual “Allah Akbar” ranting so more likely just a psychotic of some sort.

Powerlineblog also has a good piece concerning Politicizing Tragedy

Thus, when the New York Times leaps into the breach to assert, “What is needed, urgently, is stronger controls over the lethal weapons that cause such wasteful carnage and such unbearable loss,” its conclusion is negated by its own admission that:

Not much is known about the gunman, who killed himself, or about his motives or how he got his weapons, so it is premature to draw too many lessons from this tragedy.

Written by Dave the Sage

April 17, 2007 at 10:14 pm

Posted in Culture, News media, blogging

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  1. Honest question (because I think you might actually have an answer):

    Can you provide me a few examples of when an armed teacher, student, or civilian (not a paid security person) actually stopped a school shooting?

    Andre the Defiant

    April 17, 2007 at 11:46 pm

  2. There have been several, but relatively few, examples (because of the laws that restrict otherwise legal firearms from school grounds). I’ll do some research. You should be able to Google something like this.

    Dave the Infidel Sage

    April 18, 2007 at 6:14 am

  3. Guns are used some two million times a year to stop violent crimes in the general population. More criminals are killed by law abiding citizens defending themselves than by law enforcement. Some of this would undoubtedly transfer over to ‘criminal safehavens’ such as college campuses if the utopian laws were changed.

    Dave the Infidel Sage

    April 18, 2007 at 6:17 am


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