Just what did the libertarians uncover?
Perhaps something, perhaps nothing. But there is usually where there’s smoke there is fire. I am swiftly tiring of the authoritarian socialist nanny state movement and I don’t like to see these type of things even being considered. It is a tad troublesome. I’d mutter something here about being a free man instead of a serf or slave or something or other but I think you’ve already heard that on more than one occasion……
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Perhaps nothing? Amazing. What *would* it take to rouse you? How bad does it actually have to get before you sense more than a certain unease in the air?
The ‘money quote’ (literally) in the document is “The NIS will also support the delivery of identity services to the private sector.”
You would need to be a bit torpid not to see where that is headed. Soon your credit card will be an add-on service to your state ID card. Next? Ban cash (it has actually been mooted before) and then NOTHING you do will not be logged on a government server. The technology already exist, so why let them put it all together?
Shaking my head in disbelief. Has anyone sourced science fiction reading as a youth to having conspiracy theories as an adult? I am just saying…
Like the use of “torpid” and “mooted”. Using them is like a triple word score!
No matter how politically correct my posts are, I cannot please everyone. Most of the time I please virtually noone. Oh woe is me.
You are not alone in not pleasing anyone me thinks.
At least I’m not alone then. (:
Anytime a scenario such as this gets “uncovered” it’s disconcerting. I agree that it may be nothing, but generally there is a small sliver of truth to found as a conspiracy theory’s basis.
This idea has been kicked around for while and I think within the next 10 years,unless there are some major changes,and especially if we see a near financial collapse that a “data card ID system” will be put in place that will be passport, Ccard and new currency all rolled into one.
Sir, may I see your papers? A lot of Germans thought like PG and dismissed Hitler as being a kook that could never gain power. He did. The Reichstag was widely believed to have been burned by Nazis to take power through legal means, a nice conspiracy theory for those who saw what the Nazis were. The trial left many questions and today that fire is still in “conspiracy theory” territory, yet most Historians of the period admit that it was probably the Nazis who set the fire for the ultimate goal of gaining power.
Conspiracies are not always “science fiction”. The best are never uncovered. Some are…like the Watergate break in. Yet all the while the chain to Nixon was unraveling those with such mindset as PG dismissed the investigation as a just a “conspiracy theory”. He was a liar and left office because of it. End of conspiracy, the truth prevailed.
Anytime there is a question about such a serious matter it shouldn’t be labeled a conspiracy theory and dismissed. Sometimes there is fire generating that smoke.
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[...] Sometimes a cigar is only a cigar. Your messenger is familiar with this site. He believes his friend may have landed in the Aussie snake pit that matches up with Mr. Lionheart. They do write more creatively and more effectively though. If anyone likes your messenger can send them the kook/wacko bookmarks in his news feeder if that would help speed things up. To call these people Libertarians is charitable to them and insulting to the Libertarians. Take the messengers word for it; or consider it him just flying off the handle and jumping to a conclusion. Either way your messenger could careless. He suddenly lack anymore pearls to cast and he do not have the energy to document it anymore. [...]
Guys this is not a ‘conspiracy theory’, it is a real leaked government document. No ‘theory’ or ‘conspiracy’ involved here. The “NIS will also support the delivery of identity services to the private sector” is not MY theory, it is what they people behind the project are discussing amongst themselves. They want to integrate a state run ID scheme into private sector things people do. Not a theory, that is what they want. How do I know? They say so themselves.
“Like the use of “torpid” and “mooted”. Using them is like a triple word score!”
Yes, my bad. I realise it is not cool to use of words not on the approved ‘dumbed down language’ list.
What is not cool is not having a sense of humor. I mean I have a word-a-day calendar too dont ya know?
I am sure that was hilarious but I really have no idea what you are talking about.
The word-a-day-calendar is something we have in the USA that gives a definition of an uncommon word along with how to pronounce it. It’s a way to broaden a person’s vocabulary. I was joking to show, I was joking before about the triple word score.
You need to take everything I say with a grain of salt my friend. “No worries” is the Aussie saying that fits here I believe.
I just make up my own words to look smart. People think I’m more compustulentious that way.
Good for Gordon Brown. I enthusiastically support national ID cards, for Britain as well as America. Tony Blair began the effort and he was wise to do so. I just hope we can hurry and get them here in the USA. And it needs to be one with a bio-component, to prevent forgeries.